HAWT takes galore, courtesy of Royals Facebook

Royals Facebook, more so than Royals Twitter – which also has its own moments – has always been a place full of HAWT take treasures. But, over the last few weeks, its been an absolute HAWT take Heaven (or Hell).

There is some good discussion there. Even great, at times. SOME high baseball IQ. But, as interesting as that place is, sometimes, it is simply too much. The idiocracy that I see there simply amazes me. And, I’d love NOT to see some of the takes ever again, or this:


Some I know have simply left the groups – and I don’t blame them. It’s probably best. But, I cant quit it. Instead of leaving, lets expose some of these people for what they are. I have spared their identities, but if you find one of your takes on here, I apologize in advance. Maybe I’m being a little too harsh, puttin’ you on blast, BUT, the world deserves to see your glorious takes.

Let’s visit some of them:

Ventura did not throw at Machado AND it was Machado’s fault, why did he get less games?

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You simply can’t argue with blind homers. Ventura is really only suspended for ONE game, as he’ll miss just one start AND it won’t even hurt the team, as with the two off days in four days this week, his spot in the rotation can simply be skipped. Meanwhile, Machado gets four games off.

And yes, Ventura started it. Get over it. We’re not saying Machado, who is a dick in his own right, didn’t deserve it. Remember when he did this?

Yes, he ran his mouth on a deep fly to left after Ventura threw high and tight once during the at bat. But, Ventura should have let the fact that he got him out be the end of it. Instead, in another bout with immaturity, he drilled him with what his fastest pitch of the night (99 mph) right in the back. He did it on purpose. It ignited the brawl.


Pitchers always get stiffer penalties to ensure they miss one start. Ventura will really only miss one game (start) – and with the two off days this week, the Royals don’t even have to use an extra starter, they can just skip his spot in the rotation.

Even Machado doesn’t seem to understand it:

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The Royals are better without Alex Gordon, just look at our record the last two years without him!

This is not a new take, as people said it last year, too. But, it’s as HAWT as ever. It’s also an asinine opinion.

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Coming in hot! Let’s dissect these mind-boggling Gordon takes that came MOSTLY from the great mind of one gentleman.

He was an “automatic out in clutch situations” … except those times he wasn’t. Like when HIT A GAME-TYING HR IN THE BOTTOM OF THE NINTH INNING IN GAME 1 OF THE WORLD SERIES…Last season, with runners in scoring position, he hit .321/.444/.444 and with 2 outs and RIPS he hit .326/.463/.393 and in what baseball reference considers “high leverage situations” he hit .291. Or, in other words, the exact opposite of an “automatic out in clutch situations.”

“He was unproductive until he got hurt last season.” Except, he had 11 HR, 39 RBI when injured and was hitting .286/.383/.411 – all marks above his career norms – in 78 games, good enough to be voted in as an AL All-Star starter.

If it wasn’t for his defense, he’d be average – or below average!

The defense is what makes Alex Gordon an All-Star. He’s a Gold AND Platinum Glove defender. But, that’s part of it. He still doesn’t get there without his offense. If you take an aspect of a players game away, many of them would not be the same player. But, not only is this a pointless argument, but it’s also wrong.

Yes, he does strikeout a lot – always has, but he also gets on base, historically, better than any other Royal, and did so again last year, where he had a .376 OBP. And no, he doesn’t drive in a lot of runs, but he’s also never been that guy, as his career average is 73 with a career-best of 87 – one of only two 80-RBI seasons. He has a career .267/.347/.432 line, averaging 19 HR a season with 144 strikeouts, but 67 walks. He was off to a rough start this season before the injury (.211/.319/.331, 4 HR, 10 RBI, 50 K in 42 games), but entering this season – the first of a 4-year, $72 million deal – he had been really good: .281/.359/.450, with 18 HR and 35 doubles per season. That’ll do.


But, we have a better record without him! We don’t need him! He’s a God-Damned bum!

It is true, the Royals do have a better record over the last two seasons without him (54-33, .621 win percentage) than with him (79-67, .541) But let’s be real, it has nothing to do with Gordon. It’s a mere coincidence – happenstance – like the Royals winning when Alcides Escobar hits leadoff, despite his less than ideal numbers (.260/.295/.322 in 215 games hitting No. 1, which is strikingly similar to his career line of .261/.296/.340), there is no correlation to the Royals winning.

It’s comical that any legit, knowledgeable Royals/baseball fan would have the presumption, or even the notion, that the Royals are better without Alex Gordon – the 4-time Gold Glove winner and 3-time All Star – than with him.

This leads us to our next topic.

Royals should have kept Ben Zobrist and Johnny Cueto (and not Gordon)

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Has this thing not been put to bed, yet?

Hindsight is always 20/20, and you never really know what’ll happen until it does. Gordon is off to a rough start and on the DL. Meanwhile, Zobrist is off to the best start of his career (.311/.417/.481, 9 HR, 41 RBI). That hurts. But, let’s get one thing straight, Zobrist and Johnny Cueto were rental players – hired guns – that were brought here to do one thing: WIN. CHAMPIONSHIPS. And, they succeeded. Zobrist was great here (.284/.364/.453, 7 HR, 23 RBI in 59 games), and Royals fans fell in love with him – and rightfully so. But, they were so attached they wanted him back. Sure, I wanted him too. I also want Mike Trout and Bryce Harper. But, it was not realistic to expect the Royals to retain Zobrist. RARELY do trade deadline rental players return after the season when they can hit free agency and get a big pay day. Both these guys did just that.

Zobrist is making less money than Gordon is (4/$56M), but he turned down more lucrative offers from other clubs, leaving a lot of money on the table so he could play 2B for his former manager Joe Maddon, as well as being close to home (Eureka, IL).

It has been a successful blueprint for General Manager Dayton Moore thus far to stay away from big free agents. Zobrist and Cueto fell into this category. By doing so, this has allowed him the flexibility to sign multiple players for multiple needs all the while never being too married to one player so as to let them bring down the organization. So Gordon represented a unique challenge for the Royals. He already ranked fifth in terms of all-time WAR among Royals players, sitting right below Frank White and just above Hal McRae. Adding on to that legacy likely would catapult him to most likely being second to the immortal George Brett.

Entering his age 32 season, and if you want to see all the negatives about signing players ages 32 and up then please read this. It gives a bleak outlook on sinking money into a player based on what they have been instead evaluating what they will be. In order to be worth a big money contract on the field, Gordon will have to be the exception, not the rule. And so far, he has looks like anything but the exception. But his track record, exceptional work ethic and discipline, indicates he will be the exception and could be a productive player into his late 30’s, but at some point he will decline. And, at the back end of his contract, he very well could be a burden on the Royals budget. His paycheck may be at the point it exceeds his production. That is entirely possible.

The DIFFERENCE for the Royals with re-signing Gordon and that of the average Free Agent (such as Zobrist or Cueto) is Gordon could be something truly special. He doesn’t represent the type of free agent that Moore and the Glass family would overpay for in the hopes he would give that value back in way of on field performance. Instead, he represents something that only comes along once every few generations in Kansas City. A Championship player who is a lifelong Royal. In the world of professional sports, we often attribute that to ONLY on field performance, but there is more than that. A General Manager must also look at how a player is able to bring in money to an organization by ways that aren’t always measured in WAR or OPS. Frank White delivered some of the worst seasons by a Royals player ever in his last few seasons….and yet there his number sits as one of three at the top of the Royals Hall of Fame. Three numbers. That alone should tell you how big of an opportunity it would be to add the fourth. It would be cheaper, and may even provide better bang for the buck on the field, if the Royals let Gordon walk – something that was a possibility, it seemed, even though Gordon said he was never going to play for anyone else – keeping Alex Gordon in Kansas City does just that, and when we are talking about keeping someone like Alex Gordon, is priceless.

Royals fans wanted both Gordon and Zobrist, but that was unrealistic. To many it seemed it was either Zobrist or Gordon, and I’d say most of Kansas City wanted Gordon, for many of the reasons we already listed. But, there’s other reasons Gordon was the most realistic choice. Zobrist is also three years older than Gordon and is a bigger risk of not being worth the money at the back end of his deal. Gordon was going to be cheaper (even though he technically wasn’t), and for the most important reason: HE WANTED TO BE HERE. That matters.

Then we have Johnny Cueto. There was literally no more than a 1% chance the Royals had a chance to bring him back, no matter what the interest level was. The 30-year-old, who sports a career-low 2.06 ERA, and is on pace (11-1) to exceed his previous career-high of 20 wins set in 2014, turned down a monster offer from Arizona, who then went on to sign old friend Zack Greinke before going to the Giants in a deal worth $130M over six years.

Literally, no chance for the Royals.

We thank both for their service, and we could not have won it all without them, but let’s be real and put this to bed.

Some other beauties:

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Some of the proposed offers: Orlando and Cuthbert (which someone said they WOULD NOT do). Another said Ventura, Merrified and “maybe a reliever or two.” You get the idea.

These dudes get it:




OH? Or…he’s still a rookie, and will be under team control for five more seasons after this one.

Then there’s these clueless takes in reference to Alex Gordon (and Kris Medlen) rehabbing down in Double-A NW Arkansas:


Yes, dumb question.

Here’s another:

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A little unrelated, but…RUNNING UP THE SCORE IN BASEBALL?

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